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He memorably voiced Moana’s crab Tamatoa in te reo, and is heartened by the progress. “The whole landscape of te reo has changed in New Zealand,” Clement says. Sgt Maaka and his colleagues also speak some te reo Māori. One of Wellington Paranormal’s strengths is its inclusion of a Māori supernatural perspective, of legends and mythical creatures such as Taniwha. “Who would have thought that I’d spend four years making a police show? That’s a warning for any Guardian readers thinking of embarking on vandalism.” And then it turns out you’re breaking a big rule,” he laughs. It feels like you’re breaking a small rule. “That’s part of the fun, and part of the risk, of a small town: you’re let loose. Speaking of Paranormal, Clement – now 47 – reflects on his own first brush with law enforcement: when he broke into a seemingly abandoned building in his provincial home town, Masterton, as a teenager.

“They were too scared to let anyone do comedy.” “Bret’s too polite – I would love to make fun of TVNZ turning us down, it amused me,” Clement says with a laugh, gently tapping my dining room table. TVNZ, Wellington Paranormal’s producers, notoriously declined Clement and Bret McKenzie’s pitch for the series Flight of the Conchords – before HBO approved one of the hottest things worldwide in comedy for a couple of years. Mike Minogue, Maaka Pohatu and Karen O’Leary in Wellington Paranormal, a spinoff from the vampire film What We Do in the Shadows.